Sunday, August 9, 2009

Beard, Weird or just plain odd ? 80

To recap on the websites found over the last few days, several people have now commented and emailed to say that the DamonCarltonandaPolarBear.com and RonieMidfewArts are sites that are connected to ABC so they are definitely not just fan generated material. The Widmore Fine Arts blog does not seem to be part of the official puzzle, however Widmore Fine Arts has been updated to say that there will be some significant news around the middle of August.

Since the last post at Lost Args Paul Scheer has posted to say that he is uploading a video of his visit to the ABC offices, which he says is worth the wait.



Update Aug 09 2:30pm (EST): Paul has just posted some numbers on the site, for the moment I'm assuming that this is the date and time the video will be available.



Thanks to scoutpost for letting us know



Then yesterday DocArzt posted on his blog that he had received the same letters from Paul and Ronie MidFew. Paul then reproduced some of that post on DamonCarltonandaPolarBear.

The most recent post from Paul, late yesterday, gives us a poll as to who we think has a good beard or a wierd beard.

However there seems to be a puzzle hidden within the question as when the mouse hovers over the picture then in most cases a number appears. Apart from Charlie who's name appears and in Hurleys case a different format number appears.

Also the names of the image files are slightly different to the hover over values.



In the comments Black Swan has done some excellent analysis of the numbers shown when the hover over values are used (Hurleys number is taken literally as 12 minus 1). It seems 178 is a significant number and as Black Swan says 1+7+8 = 16 !



The image filename differences are - Frank 521.jpg not 52.jpg, Jack - 171.jpg not 17.jpg, Bernard - 371.jpg not 37.jpg, Hurley - 12-11.jpg not 12-1.jpg, Eko - 261.jpg not 26.jpg. If you substitute those numbers into Black Swans grids above then the line totals come to 1360, also after substituting that leaves Charlie and Michael as the only 2 pictures that don't end in 1.

Now this poll, apart from being an intriguing puzzle, also introduces a conincidence that is almost too hard to resist. In this post from LostArgs about the first Mysteries of the Universe video we and Der Merzmensch uncovered an odd link between some heiroglyphs and an old radio station. The link is that the DJ from that old radio station is called Weird Beard.

80 comments:

Zort70 said...

I've just noticed that if you use the alternative numbers in the grid then the line totals both add up to 1360.

Also that using the alternatives Eko and Charlie are the only ones that do not end in 1.

jpooch said...

I posted this on the spoilertv forum about after checking out the possible link that you may have discovered...

In reference to the WAKY station and Weird Beard...

"It all seems to be definitely real. I mean I even found his high school alum page with his high school pic and saying he died 11/22/1995 just like it says on the WAKY page . Here is the link if any of you geniuses want to take a closer look at the site... it is definitely a real site and Weird Beard seems to be an absolutely real person.

http://www.waggener63.org/waggener4/waggener4.htm


I just don't get how a piece of paper shows up in the first Mysteries of the Universe video with the radio station WAKY on it and then you go to the site and find an old DJ named Johnny Locke and then Weird Beard. Then the Kia Ad glyphs are translated to "Who is the leader?" Then somebody finds a pic about Weird Beard being the leader and signing a pledge on the WAKY site. Then the newest post on the supposed main ARG site is titled "Beardo or Weirdo" This can go one of either two ways... well maybe three... the biggest coincidence of all time, the coolest connections and broad strokes in one of these Lost ARGs or Darlton/ABC/Whoever is running this game completely messing with us and driving me absolutely insane."

This is all really weird to just be a coincidence... but if it is wow... just wow

Zort70 said...

Hi jpooch, I'm still not sure theWAKY link is anything other than a big coincidence, but as you say it sounds too good to be true.

Zort70 said...

Another thing that stands out when looking at the pictures -

If you click on the picture the original is opened, all of them except the one of Charlie on his own are in a widescreen format, Charlie's is in 4:3 format.

Anonymous said...

It is a coincidence...

The WAKY was created in January 2005. So it can't be part of the game (if there is a game).

And i think the new post in dcbp site, is just another entry, like the previous ones (before the painting in the trash thing). Nothing special about it.

Ellen said...

checking in for email!...
xxoo

Sayid'sgirl said...

Wow it looks like I'm going to have to stay up late blogging again or I'll miss everything.

The video is supposed to post midnight PST so Maven and Scoutpost be ready. I'll be in bed at 3:00am. lol

jpooch What glphs in th Kia ad? I missed that.

Sayid'sgirl said...

Ignore the part about the Kia ad. I remember now. duh.

If this is an ARG could DarkUFO,DocArtz and UNfiction be sites who get exclusive clues since they got letters from Ronie Midfew Arts.

I know Dark said he's going to check his ABC source to see if it's real but he could just be playing along. IDK

scoutpost said...

A DJ?! yea!! This is starting to seem like TLE, I hope it's for real. I'm getting really excited at the thought! Will have to check it all out later, getting ready for church.

Lisa said...

I'm totally behind in posting but I'm here. Good catch on the photos Black Swan ! Ok, I'm here now and won't get lost again.

maven said...

Sayid'sgirl: Is that midnight PST tonight? Gosh, that's way past my bedtime!

maven said...

LostArgs is getting quoted a lot at SpoilerTV forum today! Congrats, Zort and BS for your work on the numbers!

Sayid'sgirl said...

maven
I think so. It's suppose posted Monday. But at midnight that would be tonight. But it may mean midnight Monday night. Not sure.

Correction to my last post. I said Unfiction when it should have been slashfilm.

Sayid'sgirl said...

maven
Someone mention LostARGS at DC&APB too.

maven said...

Also noticed that "charlie" is not capitalized when you hover on Charlie's beard pic. Typo or something else?

Anonymous said...

Hello..I will say up front,, that I have posted in another comment area,,but see none of my words. So..I post in this comment block.

I have been a long time poster at abc.com Lost..since season one. My nom de plume has been " mungonna" and various others, but mungonna is the tried and true. I am known as mel or MEL.

Now, why am I here?. I have been sent a print of DC&PB as Thanks from Paul Sheer for helping get his DC&PB website popularized. I contributed with posts from the start. Soon after receiving the wonderful print, I received a letter from Ronie Midfew Arts..telling me what I can't do with the print. Classic John Locke moment followed,,along with the dawning realization,,that I have been recruited , possibly as a piece,,in a LOST ARG. I feel like a Jimmy Stewart character in a Hitchcock movie. What Have I Got Myself Into? What is my role?

So,, is there anybody else besides the Docs and the darks and the bloggers..who have received a print from Paul? I refer to myself as a " civilian" in this mystery. Any other " civilians"?

With help from other abc.com posters,,a photo of the Mailbox Int'l from which the RMA letters were sent, and eventually a phone number obtained. I called, but they were closed already and won't open till 10am Monday. I'd like to find out who is paying the bill for the Box # 351 , referenced in the return address of the letter from RMA. Anybody in the Woodland Hills area of LA mite even stop in there and have a few words. I'll furnish address and phone number for any so inclined.

Okay.. as piece or a participant,, I am now involved. ...regards..MEL

Zort70 said...

Mel - thanks for sharing the info, we would definitely be interested in anything you find out.

This site, and it's admins, have not been sent any of the pictures or letters as far as I'm aware.

I don't think there is a comprehensive list anywhere of who has been sent the letters, I'd love to know where Paul's mailing list came from !

maven said...

I am in the Woodland Hills area, Mel! But getting info re post office boxes is not easy!

scoutpost said...

So it seems like too much of a coincidence with the WAKY/Weird Beird/Kia ad/DCAAPB post to not mean something. But why would they connect us with a real radio station and a DJ who died in 1995 of MS? That is a little weird. I guess we'll just have to wait and see where it goes when Paul posts his video. Wonder if Paul= the new Rachel, Kia= the new Jeep, Weird Beard= the new DJ Dan...if so, wonder what will be the new Sprite? ;) This "ARG" official or not sure has a lot of similarities to TLE. Which just lends to the credibility...hope we can confirm it soon.

scoutpost said...

wow Mel! I've never posted at abc.com, so I'm probably not on their radar, but it makes me want to check my mailbox!

maven- if you go check that out, you better be careful, they might recognize you as the "quilt lady"! ;)

Anonymous said...

..My apologies.. I see that what i posted on the comments of the " Third ARG?" is now visible. That post includes address and ph # of the Mailbox Int'l from which the RMA letter was sent....kind regards, MEL

scoutpost said...

DCAApb updated again with numbers...think it's a code.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you all are quick..first.. i was contacted by email by Pauls assistant ,,if i would like a " gift" in Thanks for help making DC&PB a success. I said , sure,,. Little did I know.

..I would suggest an honest and up front approach to the Mailbox Int'l interface. Explaining what a ARG is will be fun if the person you speak to is of a foreign background as the voice on the answering machine seemed to be. But, being honest usually brings the best results.

Over time, there have been subtle nod's of the hat from TPTB concerning my pov on LOST. Interactive TV is real. I don't want to get pedantic here,,but possibly, all my posting over the years..might just have been noticed all along.

scoutpost said...

actually it's 8/10/09 1:08...something related to the video coming.

maven said...

Scoutpost: The thought is that that new post gives the time the video will be posted: 8/10/09 01 hour and 08 minutes! 108! LOL

Zort70 said...

Thanks scoutpost, I've just updated the main page.

I've also been over to ABC.com and in the Lost forums LostArgs is getting quite a few mentions there as well.

maven said...

I just might run over to that Woodland Hills address tomorrow. With ABC being in Burbank, I wonder why an address is way on the other end of the valley? Probably won't get much info...P.O. Boxes are taken out for confidentiality!

Zort70 said...

Mel, I was going to ask if you were connected to Lost in any way, but it just seems like you are a big fan with lots of useful insight.

scoutpost said...

Yeah, when I went back I saw the video tag on the post and realized what it was. I was so excited when I first saw numbers that I immediately thought "code"! LOL

maven said...

Yes, military time is being used in the posts, so 0108 would be in the morning! But the post times seem to be EST. So maybe us west coasters will get it 10:08 tonight?!

Capcom said...

Great work on the front page, Zort -- and all the great sleuthing, Argies!

:-D

Anonymous said...

Mavin..At least the PM mite come to know that he is being pursued. Indeed, why Woodland Hills?..Money is usually the root cause,,so..who owns the Mailbox Intl franchise at that address?..who owns the strip mall that is that address? Its obvious that Money is being spent on this ARG,,so,,who is the beneficiary of this largess? I doubt a random is involved.

Yea, I'm as serious as bag of Oreos and a glass of milk. I got pulled into this and I am not about being a plaything..at least I hope not.

Capcom said...

Heheh, this WAKY beardo guy brings back memories of our old pal MandrakeWig! X-D Manny

Sayid'sgirl said...

I got out and do a litle shopping and you guys go crazy.

scoutpost
I use to go to the ABC LOST forum but there were quite a few hateful people there at the time (between S1 & S2)that I quit going there.

Then I found you guys. :)

I don't think those people post there anymore. Last summer duing DWY I went there and it seemed like a new group.

Black Swan said...

Whoot! My addition grid made it on the front page! LOL! Thanks, zort! (And, btw, the lostargs front page looks great!) And an even bigger Whoot! to LostArgs being mentioned all over the place now, LOL!

I don't know if the numbers that come up when you hover over the pictures of the weirdo beardo's mean anything, really. I was just trying to make sense of it. I went to some earlier pictures that had been posted on the DC&AP blog, and some of them also have similar numbers, so maybe that's not what's important anyway.. idk.

But, with the new post up over at DC&APB and it being a video in the early hours of tomorrow, I'm wondering if the number 178 that I came up with might be something to watch for in the vid?? Like a secret message at 1:78 in the video?

I still like the idea that the title of the blog post itself, "BEARDO or WEIRDO", is what's significant and it ties in to the WAKY beardo guy.

Mel, if I were you I'd be freaking out big-time about all this! LOL! I'd really like to see that letter: "I received a letter from Ronie Midfew Arts..telling me what I can't do with the print" !!! And, btw, welcome to the Lostargs!

Zort70 said...

Thanks Black Swan (and others) for the good comments about the main posts. I'm doing this solo at the moment as Dennis is tied up with Fringe, Ange is mostly updating Facebook, and I haven't heard from Memphish or Fenris for a while.

Did you see the other notes on the front page that the alternative numbers both add up to 1360 using the same method.

scoutpost said...

memphish is out of town for the weekend, but should be back because first day of school is tomorrow for her son. You're doing a great job zort!

Zort70 said...

Thanks, I'll keep on doing what I'm doing until someone tells me not to :-)

Sayid'sgirl said...

Yes Zort great job keeping us current.

Anonymous said...

. Okay,, if there is any doubt to my sincerity and my stated situation , here is Tinypic of my proof.

[IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/2lt36a.jpg[/IMG]

Thats everything I got so far. Except for one thing. This is weird, perhaps a product of a mind that is , indeed, going ape schitt over this , anyway..the background to the Ronie site page...well,,earlier, when I realized I was into something cryptic.. I checked the letter from Paul, for, get this,, for invisible ink, or hidden stuff. Yes, yes I did. The paper of the letter from Paul is water marked. The pattern of the watermark...is the same as the background of the RMA page. So, okay,, i'm into this. ..MEL

Black Swan said...

Zort, you're doing a great job, IMO!! Keep up the good work!!

And yes, I did notice that you came up with the number 1360 and that Charlie and Michael are the only ones that don't end in a "1". I really don't know what any of this means, though, (at this point).

Black Swan said...

Thanks for sharing that, Mel! I hope you don't think I wasn't believing you!!! I didn't realize until seeing your picture that what you received is basically the same thing that doc artz and others have gotten. I thought maybe it was a DIFFERENT letter telling you what you can't do... duh, sorry!

That's really interesting about the watermark!!

Anonymous said...

BSwan..in both letters,, Pauls and RMA..my name is used,,rather than a generic Sir or whatever. So that is the only difference. Rather personalized....MEL

ps..maybe this will work better

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lt36a&s=3

scoutpost said...

mel- how did they get your home address? did you give that info when you signed up for the message board or whatever?

maven said...

Scoutpost: I was just wondering the same thing! I don't remember posting my address on any forum or blog! But, maybe, ABC is different?

Anonymous said...

at Pauls website,,i gave it my real email address when I joined in. After having some fun there, I received an email from Paul's " assistant"..requesting my home address . It was said Paul wanted to send me something in Thanks to me, for helping popularize his website. I also mentioned his website at abc.com Lost. Perhaps I mentioned some words or phrases, that triggered the gift. Whatever the case,I am here to take a progressive attitude in whatever my role in all this, was or will be....MEL

Anonymous said...

,,I am sorry,, another little detail i have forgotten about,,Perhaps something or nothing. Does the name Jensen Herman jump out of anybody's Rolodex? Jenson is the " assistant" to Paul and may be the source of RMA's address list.

maven said...

Maybe a shout-out to Jeff "Doc" Jensen?

Sayid'sgirl said...

This is just an observation and I could be wrong. But it appears that DC&APB posts are in the Central time zone.

I get this from scoutpost's post on Paul's blog being at 13:34 (01:34pm) and Zort's update of the ARGs blog at 02:30pm EST.

If this is the case the video should be posted 00:08am EST and 09:08pm PST tonight.

But like I said I could be mistaken about this.

I could have sworn I read somewhere it would be tonight at midnight PST.

maven said...

I'm just going to check every 08 past the hour! LOL

Anonymous said...

Concerning abc.com. Yes, as a public site,,its often victim to small minds dealing with puberty and what not. So,, the ' Hate" is simply dealt with by ones internal " IGNORE" button.

There has been and will probably continue to be,,alot of young minds posting there and that brings the put downs and smarter than thou ,, ridicule, smart arse remarks etc etc,,and in some cases..outrite attempts to bring the site down. I have made it a challenge for the less than sincere, to even understand my pov. Thus.. most don't even wade in on my threads. And when they do..they are sent floundering back to the shallow end of the pool. Yes, I can be obscure, pedantic, convoluted, etc at abc.com,,but that is on purpose with a purpose.

Here, I am new to this,,and I see its just the opposite.. clear information is the required. so allow me to repeat something I posted over " there".. Don't forget that what lays at the center of this branch of the ARG.. is a painting , a tribute, to TPTB and their creation,, on Black Velvet. On one hand a tacky tribute by a comedian,,and on the other hand,, a fantastic metaphor for the Dark Humor,,Humor Noir if you will,,that is a major part of the surreal of LOST..kind regards...MEL

scoutpost said...

DC&APB is on central time. I just posted a "test" post, it is 6:27 here in AZ (PST) and it posted as 20:27 on the blog, which is 8:27pm. So you're right Sayid's Girl about CST, but if it posts at 1:08 CST then that would be 2:08 EST and 11:08 PST. I think....;) Maybe maven's right, I'll just check every hour starting around 9pm!

Anonymous said...

Arizona? really? I'm in Phoenix ..You?....MEL

scoutpost said...

Someone over on the spoilerTV forum posted about another poll that appeared on the DCAAPB site. It was called who makes the best gun face and if you hover over those pictures you get similar numbers as the Beardo or Weirdo post. These do seem different than the other labels for the rest of the pictures that are posted in the blog...so wonder if we need to pay attention to the "polls" or if it will turn up to mean nothing.

mel- I'm in Gilbert!!

Sayid'sgirl said...
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scoutpost said...

Paul just posted that he's posting his video at 1:08 PST.

Sayid'sgirl said...

Scoutpost
I'm having a brain freeze. You're right it would be 02:08 eastern.

Ok so if his post is 01:08 PST that would be 04:08am!! Too early for me!
I thought I'd seen PST somewhere.

maven said...

I can't stay up until 1:08AM! Unless I'm in line at Comic Con! LOL

scoutpost said...

agreed Maven! but why do I have a feeling I'll be up somehow, someway looking at that thing at 1:09am?! LOL

Capcom said...

Ugh, I just took a pain pill, so I'm out for the count in a few minutes after I brush my teeth and flop into bed. Can't wait to wake up in the a.m. and see what you all have found!

God work everyone! :-D

Sayid'sgirl said...

I know the post were posting at Central time before. I checked it more than once to be sure because I thought it was odd.

Maybe he had the time on his blog setup wrong.

Se ya all in the morning.

Zort70 said...

No video yet and it's 15 minutes past according to my watch.

Ah well I'm just leaving for work now, I hope Paul's watch catches up by the time I get there.

scoutpost said...

2 more hours Zort...he said he's going to post it at 1:08am PST and right now it's 11:18pm PST.

roxanna said...

Is this old news?

http://damoncarltonandapolarbear.com/i/

It's the same as http://roniemidfewarts.com/i/

scoutpost said...

Not sure if that had been discovered before now or not. Wonder what that means.

I so want to see that video tonight, but don't know if I can hold on. Problem is, tomorrow I won't be able to get on until 10am PST which means it'll all be old news by then. :( ah well, such are the ways of the ARG.

roxanna said...

It's 2:18am here in Texas... I hope the video is worth staying up for.

Anonymous said...

@roxanna: Yes that's old. It mentionted at spoilertv forums 2 days ago i think...
Also
http://roniemidfewarts.com/dcpb/
is the same page as
http://damoncarltonandapolarbear.com/dcpb/

Anonymous said...

That is because both pages are on the same server, with the same ip...

Zort70 said...

roxanna, yes it was known about before, I think it just proves that everything is in game.

Zort70 said...

Scoutpost, thanks for the reminder that I'm thinking about the wrong timezone.

I've got to work now so time to look as though I'm not surfing sites about Polar Bears !

maven said...

4 minutes to go! Can't believe I'm still up!

maven said...

Technical difficulties....It's Coming!

Zort70 said...

Technical Difficulties !!

It took this long to upload and now it doesn't work !

maven said...

Trouble with server...give it 10 more minutes! Yikes!

maven said...

"Give it like 10 more Minutes…This should prove to everyone this isn’t an ARG, those companies have their stuff in order."

His latest update! What the heck does this mean?

maven said...

Sorry Everyone. I know you are tired..

At least he's nice.

There is a new message on Ronie Milfew Fine arts: too tired to copy it. You have to scroll down to highlight it. Basically says the release of Paul Sheer's next Lost artwork "will not happen".

maven said...

Here's where we stand:
"The 1st video that was uploaded looked like crap, so I need to do a higher quality version and trust me their is one thing you are going to want to see in high quality.

If you are tired. Go to bed it will be there in the morning to greet you.

If you are awake, chances are you spend quite a bit of time looking at computer, so you understand that getting something to go live and be exactly right takes a little trial and error."

I think I'm done for the night!

Zort70 said...

Night all, I'll post some screenshots of the new messages.

Zort70 said...

NEW POST to show the delay messages

Joe said...

Not sure if this has been mentioned but I just watched 'The Beginning of the End' and during the scene where Jack is playing horse with Hurley there is a point in the conversation where Hurley remarks:

"You look weird with beard dude."
Coincidence? Or not?

Someone else has noted that Locke is one of the few characters who has not grown a beard.
Probably a bit far fetched but I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of the 'Who is the leader?' hieroglyphics along with the 'Beardo or Weirdo' DCPB blog post being an indicator of how in the 6th season the conflict between Jack and Locke to become the leader of the losties will be significant. If 'Weird Beard' is the leader, as indicated by the WAKY link then perhaps they are trying to tell us that Jack is the true leader? As much as I'd hate this to be the case!